So it seems industry adoption has grown significantly, and continues to gather steam. At last year’s EuroClojure in Bratislava it was the opposite, it seemed most people were doing Clojure professionally in some shape or form. They programmed Java or Ruby or C# at their day jobs, and were dreaming of landing a Clojure job one day. One personal observation: at my first EuroClojure in Berlin in 2013, most people I spoke to were enthusiasts. We could definitely use more Clojure conferences, but with 8 annual conferences worldwide there are already twice as many as a few years back, and most of them seem to be growing in size year on year. lists 432 meetup groups that mention Clojure. The community Slack grew from just over 6000 to close to 10K members in the past 12 months. Onyx raised 500’000$US in funding last year, and the Taiwanese government is using Clojure for its citizen participation platform. The list of companies on mentions Amazon, Facebook, Deutsche Bank, eBay, PayPal, Oracle, ThoughtWorks, Red Hat, Salesforce, Walmart, and 271 others. This ask HN thread about who’s using Clojure shows plenty of companies adopting it recently. This statement initially set fire to the whole debate, but there seems to be little proof that this is true. Let’s try to unpack some of the points that were raised. It was all a bit much to be honest, but if we care about a healthy and growing Clojure community then it’s important that we have these conversations. Meanwhile Ray, one of the hosts of the defn podcast reacted to the original tweet: “I’m calling it: Clojure is alive and well with excellent defaults for productive and sustainable software development.” This sparked another big thread.įinally the person who did the talk that sparked so much debate, wrote his own summary of the discussion while reiterating some of his points in a blog post: Simple Ain’t Easy, but Hard Ain’t Simple: Leaving Clojure for Ruby. They were pointed at this talk from Rub圜onf 2016, which seemed to hit a lot of people right in the feels, and sparked a subthread with a life of its own. Someone asked if their were any Clojure failure stories. A parallel discussion thread formed on Reddit. This sparked a mega-thread, which was still raging four days later. Eric Normand responded to my one year Lambda Island post with some reflections on the size and growth of the community.Īnd then Zack Maril lamented on Twitter: “I’m calling it, clojure’s dying more than it is growing”. The past week or so a lot of discussion and introspection has been happening in the Clojure community.
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